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littletinyvoice

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I hate Dr Oz
« on: June 18, 2012, 11:12:01 PM »
I'm so sick of Dr. Oz. He is a predator on aging women. I don't doubt that his science is correct, but I've  been watching him for a few months (I'm unemployed at the moment) and I'm thinking I'd have to take 5000 supplements a day and eat 30000 calories to meet his requirements for health and youthfulness.

I especially hate his attack on obesity. I'm anorexic-ish (is that even a word?) and I would LOVE to gain weight, but I get attacked by Dr Oz and clones on a daily basis about how to lose weight. Maybe we should be looking at obesity as a bank account? What a weird topic- do we encourage health problems associated with obesity as a trade-off for hunger later? I have no objection to healthy eating and physical fitness, but wouldn't some of our preps include pounding on a little wiggle room?

I'd rather be healthy and fit and 40 pounds heavier that what I am now. I can tell you that anorexia is a scary scary disease. Apparently, once you get below a certain weight or calorie intake, your appetitie disappears, and I can attest to that. I drink Ensure's, and eat as many nuts and cheese as I can, but I can't take in enough calories to maintain my weight, so it keeps dropping and dropping. Something to consider in your preps - hunger makes you less hungry, which leads to more weakness.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 11:34:51 PM »
restricted calorie diet thingy sposed to push your immune system into the dr banner after he gets is mushroom tip stuck in the zipper zone

look into it

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Re: I hate Dr Oz
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 12:57:16 AM »
I have no idea what you just said. Know any English? That would help.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 01:33:12 AM »
I can help translate for you.  Ches said:  "I've heard it said that if one is on a restricted calorie diet it is supposed to push your immune system to activity levels similar to a raging incredible Hulk, perhaps you should look into it."  At least that's what I read, lol

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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2012, 02:42:46 AM »
My take too, Mikey.

Cryptic, but the meaning was there (but you need some knowledge of the Stan Lee corpus).
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 03:14:38 AM »
OK, thanks for the "Ches trans" tm  ;D but I still don't understand the point. The skinnier I get the lower is my appetite. My personal problems led me here, but what I'm trying to do is warn you guys is that hunger begets no hunger, and not the other way around. I've been there is what I'm warning, and you get weaker and skinnier, not stronger and more determined.  Please just learn something from my experience.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 06:57:43 PM »
Yeah, Dr. Oz is kind of a tool. Have you tried upping your dietary fat intake? sometimes that's actually the key. Most docotors will tell you if you eat dietary fat (butter, animal fats etc.) you'll get fat, but actually that's not the case. You need it for all kinds of health reasons, and a lot of people end up cut iting it out of their diets which ends up causing all kinds of trouble. Don't tell Dr. Oz I said that though.

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2012, 07:07:54 PM »
Bananas are another food that puts the weight on, but commercial ones are so loaded with chemicals that I wouldn't recommend eating them. 
I've given up on waiting for other people to get it.  Now, I'm waiting for it to get them.

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2012, 07:21:23 PM »
who is Dr. Oz?
never heard of him.
is it an Australian doctor?
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2012, 08:50:26 PM »
who is Dr. Oz?
never heard of him.
is it an Australian doctor?

Dr. Oz is on TV.  Every once in a while (twice a year), I'll turn to his show by accident.

Supposedly, one of the better ways to put on weight is to drink alcohol, and eat refined sugar.  Eating lots of fat, like in nuts and cheese, is an appetite reducer, because it takes longer for the digestive system to process fat than it does to process sugar, so some people end up feeling fuller longer on a high fat diet.  You wouldn't be accidentally doing a low-carb diet, would you?  Some studies (and you know how I feel about dietary study accuracy) make you lose even more weight than the low fat diets.

Furthermore, calories in is not a good indication of calories absorbed.  For example, you could have celiac disease and eat 10,000 calories a day, and still lose weight, simply because you can't absorb any of it.  If the nuts and cheese diet is not working for you, try something else.  Like bananas.  Or . . . nutella.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2012, 09:40:05 PM »
well, sounds like poppycock to me. LOL
I've enjoyed some drinking in my day, as well as candy and sodas, fried foods and all that stuff and still weigh what I did when I was young.
120 lbs.
heck, I'd like to gain some weight to be able to survive the coming starvation!
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2012, 05:19:51 AM »
Dr. Oz, like Dr. Phil, is just another one of Oprah's bitches. All he does is promote one miracle drug after another on what will burn fat, promote weight loss, etc. Can't help but be skeptical that he's in the pocket of some major pharmaceutical firm.

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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2012, 12:00:40 PM »
I have a theory about why people are getting fat.
here goes.
you know, the minerals in the soil were deposited for the most part from the grinding of stones under glaciers from the last ice age right?
After years and years and years of repeated plantings on the same ground, those trace minerals are depleted. Modern agriculture does not replace them. Just the commercial fertilizer is added, for the most part.
So, when the body needs these minerals, and can't find them in the foods like now, the body keeps demanding that we eat, and eat, searching for the things it needs.
The more we grow on ground that is depleted, the less nutrition is in the foods.
Hence, overeating.

You can add back some of these minerals with rock dust or stone flour that you can sometimes get from a stone mason, like where they make tombstones and things.
also, I think biochar is very helpful for the soil.

If you want to feed the body, you have to start with the soil. It's by far, the most important thing.
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2012, 12:27:06 PM »
Pam, I watched a movie a couple months ago that mentioned very similar things, I thought it was a very worthwhile watch.  It is called "Hungry for Change."  One thing that really stuck with me, the movie talked about how poor people tend to be fat, paradoxically.  Well, that's because a lot of times poor people live in food deserts where the only food available is junk food, and yes, it is high in calories, but it is missing a lot of nutrition, so people eat and eat and eat.... they called this stuff "food like products," which I think is a great term. 

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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2012, 03:01:22 PM »
I think soil depletion is a very real issue. I'm not sure it's making us fat but I it is a serious problem. I think one of the big reasons we're getting heavier in this country goes back to the Food Pyramid set back in the early eighties where we were told to eat eleven servings of carbs a day, which'll really mess with your insulin levels. Also Around the same time we switched from sugar to high fructose corns syrup in everything, and I think that's a huge reason why we're getting fat. We're also married to the whole calories in/calories out dogma which, while it makes sense on the surface, isn't actually true.
The scary thing is when you see someone who is really obese they're actually starving. Their body is socking away all this energy but they're not burning it. Even if they exercises they may burn some calories but after they're done exercising they'll need to eat and replenish what they lost because there body isn't releasing the stored energy in their fat. To burn fat you actually need to intake dietary fat and cut was down on carbs and sugar. If your body's producing a lot of insulin to deal with your carb and sugar intake it won't burn fat. You'll never hear Dr. Oz say, " Eat lots of butter and meat folks. Eat eggs and bacon and use a high quality lard for a cooking oil." If he said that he'd be accused of driving millions of Americans into heart attacks.
Thing is most doctors take maybe one class on nutrition, and a lot of the info in those classes is not actually backed by any kind of serious research.